Joe's "Red Judaism" channel can be viewed here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/Red-Judaism.." target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/c/Red-Judaism..</a>.<br /><br />According to Joe, he has focussed on the Abrahamic religious context without resorting to any Abbasid Hegemony. With that in mind he sought a synthesis of what everyone else was saying first, and only then, fleshed-out a theme which would accept some of the Abbasid comments which either went against the Abbasid grain or appeared to echo or be supported by non-Abbasid sources.<br /><br />Which non Abbasid sources; well how about Chinese?<br /><br />"During the year of Da-ye of Sui-Dynasty, there was a subject of Persia herding CAMELS in the MOUNT KUFAN (俱紛) CITY STATE (This is in southern Iraq today). One day, THE LION MAN suddenly appeared telling him: “There are three caves on the west side of the Mount Kufan (俱紛) City-State. A large ARMOURY is stored inside the caves and you can go and retrieve the weapons there. There is also a black stone with texts carved on it. You will become KING if you read and do what the carved text on the black stone tells you” (Based on the “Jiu Tang Shu”" (c.945AD), Volume 198 Biographies 148: Western Regions, Section Da-Shi [Tajk/Umy]).<br /><br />This Chinese passage is a corroboration of an Abbasid source from Al-Tabari (d.923 AD):<br /><br />"When the NASRID AL-NU’MAN had become fearful of Khosrou II, he had deposited his coat of mail, his valuables, and other arms with Hani' IBN QABISAH of the BAKR who engaged to protect what Al-Nu’man had left behind after his execution. Khosrou II ordered Iyas ibn Qabisah, as governor over HIRA (and the other former territories of Al-Nu’man), to get Hani’s ARMOURY for him. But Hani refused and soon LED his people against Persia. The lowest estimate of these mailed coats was 400, and the highest was 800. (Based on “The History of al-Tabari (d.923) Vol. 5: The Sasanids, the Byzantines, the Lakhmids, and Yemen", P.359 SUNY Press, 2015).<br /><br />So, we have an event which, according to the Abbasid Tahrikh compiler, takes place not in the Hijaz, but much further north, in present day Iraq, then corroborated by Chinese text suggesting that these events were occurring hundreds of miles too far north. <br /><br />The Chinese would not have to make up what they were saying, as they weren't under the control of the Abbasids, so give us a stronger support that these initial events of Islam's beginnings were happening much too far north, proving that the SIN is yet again wrong.<br /><br />© Pfander Centre for Apologetics - US, 2022<br />(64,330) Music: "Fareoffice, the Tribute" by Mikael Hellman, from filmmusic-io<br />...<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKqiB95Hu9U" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKqiB95Hu9U</a>